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steve briggs Posted: 07-Aug-04 21:29
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i would be grateful for any help regarding the purchase of a secondhand buzz,sail numbers around 500-650.what to check for ie sails/foils,hull/rigging etc
many thanks
steve email bosunbriggs@aol.com or post on forum
 
Andrew Haill Posted: 10-Aug-04 21:41
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Hi Steve,

I bought BUZZ 590 from Wet & Windy last year for 3200, fully sorted and with a brand new set of sails, for comfort I felt this was as good a deal as any as Andy Holmes undertook all the mods he felt improved the boat.

Depending on what you are prepared to pay now will depend on what to look for. I would have thought 2500 + should get a good condition boat with a good set of sails and covers. Check the rudder and dagger board for damage, check the dagger board is air tight, check the dagger board casing and ensure the top and bottom seals are in place, the dagger board should be a snug fit. Check the rudder locking mechanism, particularly the ali cam that locks the rudder down. Check the fittings, sometimes the sides break off the blocks that can be stood on and the bearings fall out, check the ratchets on the spinnaker blocks work, these are expensive to replace. Hoist the spinnaker and look through it to see any holes, inspect the sails, if they sound like an empty crisp packet when you handle them then they may be delaminating and may not last much longer ( good for training though ). Check the hull for water, small amounts probably aren't a problem but a bucket load may mean the hull and deck are parting somewhere, look at the underside of the rudder casing and the underside of the gunwale. Check the mast for loose fittings and check the welded top taper for any cracks particlarly around the spinnaker halyard block.

Well, best of luck, whatever you buy it's a fantastic little boat and with a little tlc any sail number can be competitive.

Andy Haill. Buzz 590.
 
Chris H Buzz1040 Posted: 11-Aug-04 15:25
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Steve, the Buzz is pretty tough and durable. Check the obvious things as Andy details above, in particular the rudder and daggerboard. Check the slot, make sure the daggerboard fits (not too tight). Look at the rudder stock castings for damage and check it locks down OK. Any really major problems should be obvious.

Wet-Windy have some cheap and simple mods that make some improvement to the controls. Check with Andy Holmes.

Buy as new as you can provided you are happy with the overall condition.
 
Pete Lindley Posted: 11-Aug-04 20:53
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Does it matter if the daggerboard slot is too loose? Can't you just add more packing to the slot to make it a tighter fit? I doubt this is something to look for!

As for daggerboards, please don't let the fact that the board you have is air tight put you off, they all leak - especially if you do a lot of capsizing!

The boat is an excellent machine. Highly recommended. Ensure the mast is straight sideways and there isn't any major damage to the metalwork.

Do not be put off if the deck is mucky - it can be cleaned up with fairy liquid and a nail brush. The non non slip areas can be cleaned up with normal car t-cut (so too the hull).

Sails in good nick aswell as the fittings. Most other stuff is minor maintenance.

Enjoy
 
Stuart Buzz 722 Posted: 12-Aug-04 14:04
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Hi Steve,

A friend of mine is selling a Buzz at the moment sail no. 876, it has been very lightly used particularly during the last year or so due to their purchase of a RS800. I think they want 2800 ono for it but i'll have to check, if interested let me know. bailey.stu@btinternet.com

Stuart.
 
Chris H Buzz1040 Posted: 13-Aug-04 11:21
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If the daggerboard gets cooked and remains airtight it will expand, possibly permanently and will be very difficuly to get in and out of the slot with the brushes in place. This is why vent holes in the top are recommended.
 
steve briggs Posted: 14-Aug-04 21:29
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Many thanks to you all for information supplied ,have now purchased Buzz sail number 866 regards Steve
 
Andrew Haill Posted: 15-Aug-04 21:28
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Expect to see you at QMSC then. Loads of advice on offer at the galas and later at the bar. If you're crap it makes no difference, you can only get better, it worked for us !!!!!. Andy & Claire Buzz 590.
 

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