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Neil Ashby |
Posted: 03-Mar-08 21:29 |
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What is the current thinking behind the setrtings for this at the moment for using Sobstads?
I would
Light stuff have none on at all to pull the sail flat and open leech
light to medium just pull a little on if can get on tapeze wire
medium full power pull on max setting to give the leech a good pull close the slot and max power and lift
Heavy stuff let off again to open leech and flatten sail , bigger slot to stop main backing
Have i got this right? I have read the tuning guide but was wondering if this is still the case?
Also what height should the jib be off the space frame on luff please approx
Neil
[Edited by Neil Ashby on 04-Mar-08 07:03] |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 04-Mar-08 10:11 |
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Hi Neil
I am sure some kind sole will give you all the help you need at Datchet. In the mean time I hope you can take a joke as I can't help noticing you have asked how to set the spreaders,mastrake, barbarhaulers, rig tension, I was wondering if you would like to know which way to go up the beat?:-)
[Edited by Lloyd Walker on 04-Mar-08 10:11] |
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Neil Ashby |
Posted: 04-Mar-08 12:47 |
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Hi Lloyd
Yes first way up the beat would be great, you dont ask you dont get 
Datachet first beat is normally fairly obivous thou!!
Just trying to get in the thick of it as soon as possible to try and keep up with the front runners.
see you on the water Lloyd |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 04-Mar-08 18:02 |
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The height of the jib from the space frame depends on your rake!
As I know your sailing abilities Neil, I'm not telling you the answer. Figure it out for yourself.
Pete
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 05-Mar-08 08:48 |
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I made the mistake of giving Pete a tip on the last day of the nationals last year and he had the cheek to beat me in the very next race!!! Mind you he did have Adam helming by then |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 05-Mar-08 09:03 |
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Actually the truth is Neil that most of us have got our own ideas and if it works for you then that is best. As with any class there is a rough guide for tuning but I always think that the top guys have a few secrets up there sleeves. In the 400s that seemed to be the case anyway and I bet it was the same in the 800s. It's not that people wont be helpfull because they will but they are more likely to help someone at the back of the fleet. Thats why we have the pro-am.
Unfortunately I wont be coming to Datchet but I might do Sheppy. By then we can see how much help you need If you have already had three bullits at Datchet I doubt if people will be that forthcoming with their settings.
In the mean time I can tell you what other people are doing in a light hearted manner; Pete likes Rake and wind, Jonny likes no swatcher, Richard likes to point v high and I dont, Bob likes to come 4th and Rob and Barry like to go the wrong way! Hope that helps!
[Edited by Lloyd Walker on 05-Mar-08 09:05] |
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rob |
Posted: 05-Mar-08 22:14 |
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True, infact very true
Rob |
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Bob Ladell |
Posted: 06-Mar-08 11:19 |
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Oh so true !
Did I mention our sponsor Cousin Trestec at all ........... ??
Cheers
Bob
Cousin Trestec
and by the way Cousin Trestec will be 814 - Cousin Trestec for the 2008 season as 1157 Cousin Trestec has gone to Italy |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 10-Mar-08 16:27 |
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Told you Bob would come fourth (see results Datchet) Funny though I thought Pete liked it windy. Perhaps he should go back to his old settings!!!! |
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Ian Moss |
Posted: 10-Mar-08 18:12 |
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Race officer told us he was seeing gusts of 45 knots so I think it was bit TOO windy. He did say he thought his annonometer was overreading though.
Settings may have something to do with it. I have always sailed with a very upright mast and always struggled in the really strong stuff. Haveing said that being upside down at the gybe point is slow regardless of your setting.
Ian |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 10-Mar-08 20:13 |
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my excuse:
www.asafeplace.co.uk/DSC00075.JPG
www.asafeplace.co.uk/DSC00077.JPG
[Edited by Pete Lindley on 10-Mar-08 20:14] |
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Neil Ashby |
Posted: 10-Mar-08 22:25 |
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Its never too windy ian , its all good
It was a great event windy the first day and put your boat handling skills thru there paces and then on the sunday your tactics and boat setup were put thru the mill.
being on the rather heavy side i was pleased to see how even the boat is between light weights and us in all conditions.
On sat pete was going just as fast as we were upwind and he weighs 30 kilos less and vice versa on the sunday pete was in front and we were still able to hang in there and push pete.
Bob is always consistent and one mistake and he would gobble you up. I would say Bob has a good compromise between speed and height.
Ian was pointing incredibly high especially on sunday, not sure how he got that kinda height but it was certainly paying off on every beat. Must have been 5 degreees higher all the time. upright mast too doesnt make sense to me?
i learnt shed loads from the weekend and great to race against iso's for a change. Cant wait for Sheppy and big waves
Neil |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 11-Mar-08 07:51 |
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eughgh!!! a hobits foot! |
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Bob Ladell |
Posted: 11-Mar-08 23:34 |
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Thanks for the compliments Neil - and well done again.
Have to admit we didn't deserve 4th with all those cock ups. Should have handled the conditions a whole lot better than that.
Note to self - get off the plane the week before an event .......... and get sailing head on
But it was fast Just what it's all about !!!
Bob |
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