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rudee Posted: 25-Oct-04 12:09
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Further to the execellent training weekend at Chew Valley, please verify which type of knot is recommended to attach the Kite and gib to their respective sheets.

We are currenlty using Bowlines. I understood that this knot may not be the most appropriate as it is relatively heavy and as a result may cause the sail to not set properly in light winds.

Also, should the answer to this question and similar other questions be added to the web site?

RSVP


Jude (859)



 
Pete Lindley Posted: 25-Oct-04 12:38
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Heyup Jude!
Depending on the diameter of the kite sheets and the size of the eye in the clew, I would just poke the sheets through the eye and put figure eight knots in the ends.

The jib sheet is actually tied together in the middle of the boat. Find the middle of the jib sheet and pass the loop through the clew of the jib, now pass the rest of the jib sheet through the loop of sheet you have poked through the clew and pull tight. Now the sheets are attached to the jib, thread the ends of the sheets through the blocks as normal and tie the ends together in the middle of the boat. Make sense? Bit confusing more like!

The reason we tie the sheets on the kite is because we have the take up system on the Spinaker sheets and with a knot in the middle of the boat, it would get stuck on the take up system:
http://www.isoracing.org.uk/iso_guides/isotweaks/spintakeup.htm
On the jib we don't!

Pete

[Edited by Pete Lindley on 25-Oct-04 17:42]
 
crazy sailor Posted: 25-Oct-04 17:19
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Thanks for the training. Me and my dad have learnt alot and have noticed that our buzz has alot wrong with it. We are thinking about puting a spinaker sheet take up system in. Pete do you have a halyard system as well?

Thanks again for the training

Daniel
Buzz 414(wasn't there this weekend but if theres a next time it will be there)
 
Pete Lindley Posted: 25-Oct-04 17:32
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The halyard take up system is exactly the same as the kite sheet take up system, but run up the starboard side of the bow. I don't have any halyard take up on my boat but could seriously consider applying the bow version take up as my crew isn't very tidy - are you dear!?

 
rudee Posted: 25-Oct-04 17:36
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Hiya Pete,

I understand the first point about using a figure of eight knot.

However, I am confused about the second point re the jib sheets.

I also understand the point abiout the spinnaker take up system and the mod on the Buzz to ensure that the halyard take up system is linked (like the ISO mod your link shows) forwad to the bow sprit.

It is also good that there are pictures with note son teh ISO that could be shared or replicated on teh Buzz site.

Jude
 
Pete Lindley Posted: 25-Oct-04 17:42
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Edited the jib para.
Tis confusing without a pic!
 
Chris H Buzz1040 Posted: 01-Nov-04 21:41
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I put loops knots in clews of both spinnaker and jib and tie the ends with a fishermans knot in the boat and tape up the ends. It's neat and light where you need it and doesn't get caught on anything.

Chris H
 
David Smart Posted: 04-Nov-04 00:39
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The best, lightest way of tying jib and spinnaker is to find the middle of the sheet and tie a thumb knot around the clew. It is a bit fiddly to do and can be a bugger to undo after a breezy sail. BUT it is very light, very small and causes least problems when sailing. The ends should be tied and taped in the middle of the boat. The only problem is that cos they can be hard to undo, you're never first in the bar! Good for Opens/Nationals when you can leave the sails done up in the boat.

Otherwise Pete's jib method is easy and wont jam.

David
Buzz 913
 

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