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Topic: Are Hyde sails value for money? |
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Mike 921 |
Posted: 18-Aug-08 16:14 |
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NO!
I bought a new Hyde jib at the beginning of the season and it has already started to brake down both stretching and delaminating. The present material used in the Hyde sail seems not to have a long life looking at other boats with similar sail material.
Have other people experience the same problem?
Mike
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 18-Aug-08 20:38 |
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Mike, you are the first Buzz sailor to report problems with their sails. We know of problems with the ISO jibs though, so,
Value for money - well they are cheaper than when the Sobstad jibs were new on the market, they also provide better performance.
However!!!! We (the ISO's) are experiencing the problems you mention Mike.
Just outside the clew reinforcing panel seems to be the favourite place. I agree that it doesn't take many sessions on the water before they start to go - that is without any capsizes and in all conditions.
The tech committee are on with it.
Anybody else any problems, please email to:
isofeedback4 'at' asafeplace . co . uk
Details required:
- Photo of the problem area
- Photo of the sail serial number
- Your boat class and boat number
- Do you have a jib furler
- How many times used
- How windy
- Any capsizes
- When bought
- Where bought
- Your experience (even the jibs on the boats at the top of the fleet aren't doing well, so be honest here please to help us help you).
- Plus anything else you can think of that may be useful.
See you at the nationals
Pete Lindley
ISO 1013 'Team RWO'
[Edited by Pete Lindley on 18-Aug-08 20:41] |
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Mike 921 |
Posted: 03-Mar-09 15:47 |
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NO
I have returned from sail loft after having the jib repaired again due to sail film break down. About a 1/4 of the sail in now covered with repairs.
The sail loft I use, has always recommended that the jib should be made from Dacron. The sailmaker is familiar the ISO and BUZZ sails from his time at Sobstab. He remembers the high number of repairs they did for both classes.
The cost he would charge me for manufacturing a Dacron jib would be less than the cost of a new hyde sail.
The main is standing up better than the jib but is showing signs of sail film break down.
Mike |
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Stu B |
Posted: 03-Mar-09 21:36 |
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Hi Mike,
You are not the first Buzz to have problems and it is being looked into, particularly trying to find the actual cause of the damage. I have sailed other boats with this Hyde material and they last fine, but the other boats have had self tacking jibs which stop the sail flapping so much.
With regards to the way forward i can tell you that Hydes know of the problem and are being very helpful towards finding a solution that prevents this problem, one solution being to use dacron rather than the current material, however some others are very keen on keeping the current Hyde material. I will keep you informed on progress . . .
With regards to the cost of dacron jibs, yes dacron can be cheaper than laminates, but also a lot more expensive depending on the type of dacron you go for.
Stuart.
Buzz 1079. |
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paolomoncia |
Posted: 10-Mar-09 16:37 |
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Please remember that a Dacron Jib will not delaminate, but will change shape with use and soon be useless... on the long term, much more expensive as you need to change more (provided the Hydes last and not fall into pieces). I have not had problems with mine so far, not used too much really, and always make sure it does not flap...
If a change in material is on schedule, Sobstad was probably more long-lasting (delamination was not a big problem, you could still use the sail and be very fast), so in my view it would be better to go for a similar material rather than dacron. |
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Mike 921 |
Posted: 12-Mar-09 15:29 |
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Hi
I consider having to buy two jibs per season too be unreasonable. I am a club racer and cannot justify these costs.
The jib shape has also change due to there been no laminate to keep the strengthening ribbons in the correct alignment and shewness.
Mike
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