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Mark Dowling |
Posted: 18-Apr-06 10:10 |
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Pete - what is that rope used to make continous kicker which sort of feeds into itself - can you let me know name diameter and length
thanks alot
Mark |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 18-Apr-06 15:29 |
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13m of 4mm rope with a dyneema type core - the type that you can splice into itself.
Unfortunately ropes are not my forte so someone else will have to specify.
Pete |
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Bob Ladell |
Posted: 19-Apr-06 10:01 |
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Cousin Trestec - Dyneestar or Dynapro, 4mm dia, about 13m to 14m long and tweak it to suit your liking when fitting it.
Best scheme is to just tie a reef knot in it and try sailing for a couple of weeks adjusting knot position to suit you and then cut and splice. This also helps ensure the twist inherent in most new ropes get untwisted before you stitch the ends together.
Technique is then to strip back the outer on one end and cut the inner off - about 4 inches should do. Then do the opposite with the other end, melt the two inners together, then feed the outer over the join and stitch along the length of the joint twice at 90 degrees to eachother - so about 4 inches either side of the melted ends. Do it "properly" and you should end up with a very strong and flexible joint with next to no lumps in it. |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 19-Apr-06 13:24 |
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Not sure about melting and stitching Bob. I wouldn't trust that under load at all!
Splicing and then stitching to help stop any fraying / slipping of the splice, is the best option.
Pete |
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Bob Ladell |
Posted: 20-Apr-06 23:35 |
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Think the splice is strongest - but you end up with a lump. With a big enough overlap of inner and outer plus some good close stitching in both directions it should be both flexible and strong.
Nevertheless, I wouldn't expect to get the join going through the working blocks - putting it under full load - but keep it helmside of the cleats. Think that's about your recommendation in the tweaks section somewhere Pete ?? |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 21-Apr-06 08:34 |
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No bumps in my splicing Bob. |
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Mark Dowling |
Posted: 21-Apr-06 17:52 |
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we all like a bit of stripping and stitching but I was thinking of the stuff you showed me at the nationals in Restronguet Pete where you just had a small fiddle ( nothing personal ) which you used on this special type of rope - think it can be used on the strops as well |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 21-Apr-06 19:06 |
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Thats a small "FID"!!!!
Rope with a Dyneema core. Rope diameter of 4mm. I'm sure a chandler would be more help than myself. Me not good with this techi stuff.
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sailsport |
Posted: 08-Jun-06 14:14 |
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I find the smoothest way of doing it is to splice the two cores together and feed the cover into the core producing a strong but very smooth join.
1. pull the core out of the cover approx 300mm from the end of the line. 2. cut the cover off leaving about 100mm.
3. feed cover down through core using fid
4. splice the two ends of core together
5. optional but advisable to lock stitch the 2 cores.
You end up with a short 200mm length of core only which doesn't work too well in a cleat but you can avoid this by moving it around a little if the exposed parts get too close to the cleat... |
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