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Neil Ashby |
Posted: 20-Jul-08 17:29 |
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Ok my hyde jib now has worn out. holes have appeared in it and the back edge has just destroyed itself where it hits the mast on the tacks. i only bought the hyde jib ready for sheppy event , not windy , then did broadstairs , even less wind , then weymouth , which was windy , and this weekend medway regatta which was very windy. So 4 events and it has had NOT GOOD. I never let the jib flog and am very careful about all the sails. Main still looks great as does the kite.
I think hydes or the committee need to have a real look at putting soft battens in the jibs like the 800 has. I will get thru 2 jibs a year thats 600 quid time you get it delivered.Or 75 quid a weekend sailing. I bought the boat as it was cheap to sail but at this rate it is not
Neil 1195
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Bob Ladell |
Posted: 21-Jul-08 08:59 |
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I've had my Hyde's for a year, sailed most of the events you've done this year, plus 45 knot gust Datchet, almost all events last year and every weekend club racing plus our Thursday night series.
I don't have any of the issues you've raised. I know others are in a similar position sailing hard in all weathers over the last year. So far as I can tell the Hyde's are holding up very well indeed
Possibly a faulty one off ??? In which case should be returned to W&W for checking.
Bob |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 21-Jul-08 12:14 |
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Look Neil, I know you are a useless sailor and your results show this. However you need to note this quote on the W&W website:
"THE JIB WILL NOT LAST 5 MINETS IF YOU LET IT FLOG "
Ref link: http://www.wet-windy.co.uk/acatalog/ISO_Sailing_Dinghy_Sails_.html
When Lloyd rang W&W and mentioned the same problem as you mention, Andy told him that he must have obviously let the jib flog! (although the main problem was that Lloyd had his boat upside down for the duration of the Sheppey event).
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Neil Ashby |
Posted: 21-Jul-08 12:56 |
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I could have NOT been more careful with the jib over those events. As you all know we dont ever capsize to kill it and always back it in between races. Faulty i dont see how really. it was all stitched together well, it has quite simply worn out. must be the speed we go up wind 
so w and w will say it has been flogged and i wil say it hasnt and i will still have to buy a new one! |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 22-Jul-08 23:09 |
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My jib was worn out before Sheppey and I looked after it very well in fact I would say that Graham and I were obsesive about looking after the thing. I ordered a new one nine months after the first one. This is why the RS 400 has a dacron jib with battens also the laser 4K has jibs on the circuit with the old Hyde logo made of dacron. Dacron is the way to go. Only boats with self tacking jibs use the stuff we have ie 29er 49er int 14. To be honest my jib leach was worn out by the time we did the nationals last year and I remember telling some one about it. Yes we let it flog at Sheppey but it was already a spare by then! My views about this were sought durung the developement but unfortunately I received short shrift from someone who thought they new better.
[Edited by Lloyd Walker on 22-Jul-08 23:11] |
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Nik719 |
Posted: 23-Jul-08 09:57 |
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Looking at my new Jib, used 15 times, I would agree to Lloyd. Dacron seems to be much better in terms of a user friendly Material.
Nik |
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Richard 553 |
Posted: 23-Jul-08 23:05 |
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I have 2 hyde jibs, the original prototype which was recut from vertical battens to horizontal and a slightly newer one. Whilst I try and use the prototype one for windy conditions (it was sailed in a force 7 with me and Mike L at a tasa event at dachet which proved vertical battens didn't work on the ISO) generally both got used heavily last year, most weekends, opens, euros, fed week and nationals. I have no holes in either unlike the sobstad ones which had holes after 1 season. Both jibs have a crooked leach which I think is a problem with shrinkage of the dacron leach tape vs the mylar sail. Both sails seem to still be quick and didn't hinder me last year, except at the nationals when I was crap.
Like most of you I would class myself as a reasonable sailor and like Llyod I am fanatical at not letting the jib flog.
The recommendation we had when we tested sails is the a mylar sail will hold its shape, even if the mylar breaks down, whereas the dacron one will loose its shape.
In the past I have repaired the sobstad mylar jib with adesive mylar fromthe local sailmakers having made sure the sail was clean & dry first.
Hope to be on the water in Autumn.
Richard
[Edited by Richard 553 on 23-Jul-08 23:07] |
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Neil Ashby |
Posted: 24-Jul-08 12:56 |
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Apart from the back quarter where the jib hits the mast the rest is in very good condition. But i still have a jib that i cant really use now for the nationals which is just ridiclous. If the jib was cost price i.e 150 quid then it wouldnt be so bad but it isnt.
This class could turn into cheque book sailing at this rate, we could have an international development iso! |
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 24-Jul-08 13:25 |
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You should have been around when we sailed with Sobstads though Neil! They really did fall to bits.
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Neil Ashby |
Posted: 24-Jul-08 15:19 |
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Well i dont want to pay 600 quid a year on jibs! i am sure the rest of the fleet dont either. So something else needs to be sorted out. My dads 400 one fits quite nicely and its a bit bigger. lets retro fit one of those. dead easy and cheaper and more importantly they last! |
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