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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 28-Aug-07 22:04 |
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As much as I enjoyed leaving Herne Bay at 17:00 and getting home and sitting down to dinner by 18:30 after unpacking, I know we need to be aiming for a nationals to the West of Southampton, or North & West of the M4 / M40 line.
If Llandudno isn't feasible, I don't think it is, then I would want Paignton / Teign area.
Bank Holiday: Going to Cornwall is a nightmare this time, how about a long weekend during school hols where we need to take annual leave from work?
If no Europeans, then a 4 day nationals in Cornwall would be a good idea.
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Barry Clark |
Posted: 28-Aug-07 23:26 |
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Its a pity that you dont think it is feasible to hold the nationals in Llandudno, I feel it would have generated a lot of interest in all the boats from people in the area. I have just swapped to a BUZZ from an ISO and already I have had people interested in the boat.
The Urdd eistedfodd is held on a field on the outskirts of llandudno and has its own camping facilities on site, so all the campsites in the area should be free including 1 in walking distance from the club.
Hopefully we will be doing some of the open competitions next year, if there are any north of bristol but below scotland could you let me know. It would be nice to sail against something that isn't a scorpion, solo, laser or topper.
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SpellerMike |
Posted: 29-Aug-07 20:56 |
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Ha.. Ha.. Ha.. Pete - I left @ 6 and was home by 6.13.... |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 30-Aug-07 13:00 |
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out of interest I have just had a look at all the results so far this season and if everyone who has attended an open so far this season had been at the nationals we would have had a total of seven more boats making 24. I am not sure the date of the nationals has been the reason behind a decrease in numbers. We may need to spread ourselves out a bit more as Pete says. I belive we need more publicity in terms of getting the boats out and about. Unfortunately it apears that our core is decreasing so therefore we need to get new faces on the circuit. I feel that one of the ways to do this is to lend the W&W boat more often. I realise that this is up to Andy as he has invested heavily in it but it could be in his interest to see it sailed by a good helm from outside the class. Would someone at Hyde sails be prepared to have a go at the inlands? Would someone who has left the class be tempted back for a go (ie IKG)? Also next season I will try to do more of the well publisised events in our area in the ISO, this can help when other competitors see the new sails. Events such as the Frozen Sheets at Thorpe Bay, The Brass Monkey at Leigh SC the Bloody Mary , Hoo Freezer and the Nore Race all attract a lot of interest. It would be interesting to know why some of the old faces have stopped travelling (ie Restonguet boats)? or anyone else who used to do the circuit but now dosen't. I hope this is taken in the way it is meant which is not a critisism of anyone. Lloyd |
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Stu B |
Posted: 30-Aug-07 15:31 |
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Barry,
Llandudno looks like a lovely venue and it is re-assuring to know that the youth festival is out of town. Perhaps we need more info on this event to clarify that it will not effect our Nationals, either in travel, accommodation, etc. Out of interest, which camp site is within walking distance? and roughly how far away is it?
Perhaps an idea of who is planning to head to North Wales next year would be helpful? And when is easiest, ie May Bank Holiday or August?
Lloyd,
Zoe and I have had the same in mind with regard to showing that the Buzz still exists by entering handicap class events. Eg, we competed at Paignton Regatta 2 weeks ago, along with Roger and Penny in theirs. This weekend we are competing in the Isle of Sheppey race, along with Mike and Josh in there Buzz. Whether it makes a difference or not i don't know, but it's a good excuse to visit lots of different clubs anyway!!
Stuart and Zoe
Buzz 763.
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 30-Aug-07 20:01 |
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Slight detour from the thread of the nationals, but maybe we have a year where we just go along with the big events like Paignton and Sheppey etc This is our circuit for a year to advertise the boats. The following year we go for our own circuit?
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Barry Clark |
Posted: 30-Aug-07 22:32 |
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Stuart, the nearest campsite that I can find is 5 mile away which I know is a good walk after a days sailing. I dont live that far from llandudno and could go and see if there are any closser, I believe there is also a school nearby which have let people camp on there fields in the past.
My brother works for the North wales police and is trying to find out what roads if any will be affected by the eistedfodd his neighbour also works for the urdd so we can find out more information if required.
I know it probably sounds like I want it in llandudno because it is close to me but its not, I just think it would be nice to get a fleet of buzzes, iso's etc on the water in the area. An open Assymetric regatta held at Bala this weekend had 7 laser 2000 in it, it would be nice to have 7 buzzes, iso's etc there next year.
Let me know if you would like me to investigate further about llandudno or any other clubs/competitions in the area that may be of interest. |
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Colin Snook |
Posted: 31-Aug-07 00:05 |
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Barry,
Can you email me on cfsnook (at) ntlworld (dot) com. We are very keen to organise ISO/Buzz events towards the north and west. It seems that we are fairly well known in the South East and it is fairly easy to get events at clubs down here but much more difficult to establish contacts in other areas. I could do with some help investigating clubs in the area.
Also, any info you can find out about the likely impact of the eistedfodd would be worth having. I guess the main concerns are accomodation, parking, and access.
Cheers
Colin |
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rudee |
Posted: 31-Aug-07 13:06 |
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Interesting thread...
Our outlook for 2008 is to goto as many local events with as many Buzzes (whether local or from further away from the S West).
For example & assuming no clashes of dates, etc, etc, etc :
- Roadford Lake
- Star Cross
- Exmouth/Topsham
- Paignton
- Teignmouth
- Chew Valley
- Port of Plymouth (Sunday only)
- Camel Week
- Falmouth Week
- Looe ?
It would be interesting to know whether any Multi Gala events for 2008 are in the frame at the moment. Also, are any planned jointly with TASA?
Jude
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Stu B |
Posted: 31-Aug-07 15:10 |
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Hi,
Provisionally, i think . . . the following venues are planned;
- Paignton
- Northampton
- Weymouth
plus a few others that i can't remember.
Jude, do you plan to do the Nationals at Llandudno next year? What's the furthest Roadford members would travel?
It is definately worth doing handicap events in order to increase interest in the classes, at Paignton we had someone ask about the Buzz and this morning at Sheppey someone was asking about it whilst i was rigging it. Although the Buzz and Iso have been around for many years it's suprising how many people do not know the boat, this mornings comments were that they were particularly impressed with the width of the Buzz and how roomy it looked, something the later asymmetrics do not offer??
Stuart.
Buzz 763.
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Mark Dowling |
Posted: 31-Aug-07 15:39 |
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Unfortunately I was unable to make the Nationals at Hernia Bay due to Bank Hol family commitments which I think would apply to quite a few others plus bank hol traffic horror etc - thought of going Llandudno is just too far and seems to be miles away from most of the fleet - ok if you are going for a week but a couple of days? - I really like the idea of us adopting a few big regattas over the season - these can be great fun with a good social side as well - Poole week is a good one at Parkstone,Bala, Federation week, Rock - there are loads of them and we would have a great time and raise our profile if we had 12 or so ISO's at these events. I remember we did manage to get quite a few of us at the Hoo Freezer a few years ago but only a couple made it to start line in 40mph winds. Also I think that if you get enough entries at these regattas you may even get your own start and there are often prizes each day which means you do not have to do the whole week - would just need us to select say 3 and get commitment from fleet to attend - off to do Round Sheppey tomorrow which is a brilliant adventure - I was one of only 2 ISOs there last year - would be great to see 6 of us competing in such a high profile event and if the top blokes turned out we could probably win these races with loads of publicity - perfect timing with the new rig to show how we have moved on. |
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rudee |
Posted: 03-Sep-07 10:43 |
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Hi,
Unfortunately, we are not planning on attending a Buzz event at Llandudno, The reasons are those mentioned in this thread and similar threads on the same subject (this is nothing 'personal' about Llandudno, but more about it being too far away).
From reading the potential Mulitgala venues, Weymouth seems to a suitable venue for a national as it is near to a lot of Buzz/ISO fleets). I am sure that a reasonably successful Mulitgala event could also take place at Llandudno(for example there were 14 Buzzes at Chew Valley in April this year).
I am not sure the how the 8 Buzzes at Roadord would be prepared to travel. A good indicator is how many of these Buzzes attended either the Muligalas or the Nationals this year (i.e. distance vs attendance). I will ask each of the Roadford Buzzers to respond to this thread so that it gives a clearer picture.
Jude
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Stu B |
Posted: 03-Sep-07 11:38 |
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Thanks Jude, that will be very helpful.
Stuart. |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 03-Sep-07 15:13 |
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Perhaps all those ISOs in the North of England or in Wales or Scotland who would attend an ISO nationals in LLandudno could also make their intentions known via this thread. At least we would be able to see if there is a viable number to make it worth the trip. I am a bit concerned that we might go all that way for the weekend to find it is the same old faces. On the other hand if there are a dozen ISO North of Watford that would be there then count me in! |
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dt |
Posted: 03-Sep-07 16:07 |
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Given the strength of some other growing fleets around the country I'd like to see us concentrating in the next year or two on getting more Buzz and ISO boats sailing, otherwise we could be a dwindlng fleet with a cluster in the SE and one in the SW.
Llandudno is 2hrs away for us, but Herne Bay was only 4hrs, so it's not a big deal.
Good central offshore venues are hard to find.
Holding the inlands somewhere in the midlands would be good - the same distance for most of us.
Perhaps a Northern ISO/Buzz open event would be a start, but the numbers seem to be low, although I know that there are more boats out there than are on the Google Map. For example, Glossop is only a 10min drive for us, but of their 5 ISOs only one seems to be regularly racing this year. The same at Beaver.
I suspect people are tranferring to RS and Laser boats.
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Pete Lindley |
Posted: 03-Sep-07 16:44 |
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They might be transferring Dave, but there are 1400 ISO's & Buzz's out there and they all must have owners!?
Currently, for a change, Glossop is having a dry spell. I know one boat has sold up, but the rest are sailing at Pennine I think. Are there boats from our classes at Beaver? I ask because the water is a tad shallow for the ISO & Buzz. If you have problems though you can just get out and walk home! |
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dt |
Posted: 03-Sep-07 18:24 |
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Really, we might have a look there then, Pennine is practically in Huddersfield and only about a mile from where we currently sail.
(I'd forgotten that Glossop was drained of water earlier this year and is still not full, so that probably accounts for it).
There were 889 and 989 on the old map on the website at Doncaster. I also met a guy at the Anglesey Offshore Dinghy Race in a Buzz, who was from Cheshire somewhere.
It would be nice to get some of the unused boats up for sale cheap. That's what attracted Gill and I, a cheap play thing, that we can then upgrade if it goes well. That's another great thing the Buzz and ISO have over the RS and Lasers - PRICE. |
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Lloyd Walker |
Posted: 04-Sep-07 09:50 |
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Dave thats a good idea about the inlands in the middlands. I know when I sailed RS400s we had more boats at Rutland for our inlands than we had at Abersoch for the nationals the same year. Draycote Water is also another very good popular venue for an inlands. |
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